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21 December 2023

Did Google Just Kill Email Marketing? (#184)

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster03:00

Why a Perfectly Personalized Email Can Still Become Spam

Kieran argues that complaint rates reflect permission and recognition, not merely writing quality. Even excellent one-to-one personalization cannot guarantee acceptance when the message arrives at scale from an unfamiliar sender without prior consent.

  • Unsolicited messages create complaint risk regardless of copy quality
  • Recipients often use spam reporting to reject unknown senders
  • Mass sales outreach is especially exposed
  • Personalization does not substitute for permission

it's not always indicative of the quality it's indicative of the permission to send that email to that person in the first place

Kieran Flanagan · 03:30

I Mark most things in my inbox as spam uh if I have not asked to receive it

Kieran Flanagan · 07:30
#permission marketing#personalization#cold email#spam

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take10:30

The Anti-Spam Crackdown Could Extend to SMS and iMessage

Kipp notes that the relevant industry group addresses messaging abuse broadly, not just email. Both hosts report rising SMS and iMessage spam and predict that stronger sender controls may spread across messaging channels used by sales teams.

  • Messaging abuse extends beyond email
  • SMS and iMessage spam are increasing
  • Sales teams increasingly depend on text-based outreach
  • Cross-channel controls could follow email enforcement

it's not email it's messaging

Kipp Bodnar · 11:00

I think you're going to see this uh apply to iMessage and text

Kipp Bodnar · 11:00
#sms#imessage#messaging#spam prevention
Hot Take11:30

The Sales Templates That Instantly Signal Automated Outreach

The hosts mock common outreach patterns, including pretending to follow up on a nonexistent conversation, threatening to close an invented file, and using superficial LinkedIn references as personalization. Their examples show how transparent automation erodes trust before a sales conversation begins.

  • False follow-ups imply a relationship that never existed
  • The “close your file” device manufactures pressure
  • Shallow LinkedIn references expose templated personalization
  • Immediate meeting requests make connection attempts feel transactional

first of all I have never had a conversation so I'm just following up on the conversation we had

Kipp Bodnar · 11:30

I don't accept anyone because it's like you hear you accept and then you hear that Ding

Kieran Flanagan · 13:00
#sales outreach#automation#linkedin#cold email

Explainer· 3

Explainer01:00

What Google and Yahoo’s New Bulk-Sender Rule Changes

The hosts explain that Google and Yahoo planned new Gmail and Yahoo Mail requirements for February 2024. They describe a model in which bulk senders are authorized by default but risk losing access when spam complaints cross the stated threshold.

  • The policy targets mail delivered to Gmail and Yahoo users
  • The hosts cite a spam-rate threshold above 3%
  • Enforcement can affect future delivery from the sending domain
  • The change makes sender reputation more consequential

as of February 2024 Google will block all messages from any sender domain

Kipp Bodnar · 01:00

if your spam rate goes above 3% for a give and send then you're no longer going to be authorized

Kipp Bodnar · 06:00
#gmail#yahoo#email policy#deliverability
Explainer05:00

Inside the Industry Group Shaping “No Auth, No Entry”

The episode introduces MAAWG as an industry working group involving major mailbox providers and large email senders. The hosts explain its “no auth, no entry” direction as a shift toward requiring senders to prove legitimacy before reaching users.

  • The group includes mailbox providers and major email senders
  • Google and Yahoo signaled a stricter authorization model
  • Authentication helps limit domain spoofing
  • Mailbox providers are moving from passive filtering toward sender qualification

there's a group called MOG and they're the messaging malware M anti-abuse group

Kipp Bodnar · 05:00

what they're calling this is the no off no entry

Kipp Bodnar · 05:30
#maawg#authentication#sender identity#email infrastructure
Explainer14:00

AI Is Scaling Outreach and the Systems Built to Block It

The hosts describe a paradox in which generative AI produces increasingly personalized outreach at massive scale while mailbox providers use AI to detect poor sender quality and suppress it. Better generation therefore accelerates the need for better filtering rather than guaranteeing better access.

  • AI reduces the cost of personalized mass outreach
  • Recipients still experience the result as unsolicited volume
  • Mailbox providers can use AI to evaluate sender quality
  • The same technology drives both message creation and suppression

AI is doing all the things here and then AI is trying to stop AI doing those things over here

Kieran Flanagan · 14:30

you have ai on one side producing more of the things and AI on the other side actually figuring out how to clean it all…

Kieran Flanagan · 15:30
#artificial intelligence#email automation#spam filters#personalization

Story· 1

Story16:00

How “Cone Ball” Explains Collective Punishment in Marketing

Kipp recalls an elementary-school game that the whole class lost because one student behaved badly. He uses the memory as an analogy for email regulation: widespread abusive behavior forces responsible marketers to absorb more technical and operational work.

  • A single bad actor deprived the class of a favored game
  • Industry abuse can trigger rules affecting everyone
  • Responsible marketers bear compliance and operations costs
  • Collective restrictions arise when voluntary restraint fails

because some people were doing some crappy things there's a bunch of Patricks out there

Kipp Bodnar · 17:00

now the average marketer has to go and do a lot more work because of this

Kipp Bodnar · 17:30
#marketing operations#regulation#email abuse#analogy

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway09:00

The Initial Rule Does Not Cover Google Workspace Domains

The hosts clarify that the announced enforcement applies to free consumer Gmail accounts rather than corporate domains hosted through Google Workspace. They still recommend preparing for broader adoption because Google, Microsoft, Apple, or other providers could expand similar controls.

  • Consumer Gmail is in scope
  • Corporate custom domains on Google Workspace are initially excluded
  • Existing anti-spam rules still apply to business domains
  • The policy could foreshadow wider industry adoption

Google workplace accounts so that means like companies using Gmail as their Corporate email are not included on this

Kipp Bodnar · 09:00

what if Microsoft jumps in

Kieran Flanagan · 10:00
#google workspace#gmail#b2b email#policy scope