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Patrick Woods06 September 2022

How Community Can Accelerate Your Go-To-Market with Patrick Woods

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster31:00

Web3 Does Not Replace the Fundamentals of Community

Web3 communities still face the familiar challenges of identifying members, nurturing champions, and creating conversations. Tokens add complexity because genuine participation and financial speculation can become difficult to distinguish, reducing trust and shrinking the margin for error.

  • Web2 and Web3 communities share fundamental operating questions
  • Tokens complicate members' incentives
  • Speculators may behave differently from genuine project believers
  • Financial outcomes increase sensitivity to community mistakes
  • Protocol communities may resemble conventional developer communities

It's who's in the community, what are they doing, on what platforms, who are my champions, who's fading away.

Patrick Woods · 31:30

we've seen trust kind of being a problem in web three, given the sort of maybe misaligned incentives

Patrick Woods · 32:00
#web3#tokenomics#incentives#trust

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take10:30

Community Costs More to Start but Can Compound Over Time

Unlike a bounded optimization investment, community can become more valuable as relationships form and members begin supporting one another. The initial viable version is difficult to build, but successful communities can become increasingly self-sustaining.

  • Community is difficult to test through a tiny pilot
  • Member-to-member relationships create durable amplification
  • Members can answer questions and support organic growth
  • Community returns may compound while marginal operating costs decline

the minimal viable version of community is like really, really hard.

Kieran Flanagan · 11:00

the impact from community goes up and the costs actually start to go down because the community starts to actually do a lot of its…

Kieran Flanagan · 11:00
#investment#compounding#community roi#capital allocation
Hot Take18:00

The Strongest Moat Is Having More People Want You to Win

The hosts argue that business success depends partly on how many people are invested in the company's success. A vibrant community can turn shared purpose and incentives into differentiation that competitors cannot quickly reproduce.

  • Customers alone may have only transactional reasons to support a company
  • Shared purpose creates stronger alignment
  • Community can increase the number of people invested in an organization's success
  • Vibrant communities are harder to copy than operational optimizations

your success is directly dependent on the number of people who want you to succeed.

Kip Bodner · 18:00

Once you have a real vibrant community, it is a really hard thing to replicate.

Kip Bodner · 19:30
#competitive moat#differentiation#brand#community

Explainer· 6

Explainer03:30

The Three Types of Community: Product, Practice, and Play

Patrick Woods separates communities according to what members expect when they participate. Communities of play provide enjoyment, communities of practice help people improve a discipline, and communities of product help users become more effective with particular tools.

  • Classify communities by the value members expect
  • Communities of play bring people together for fun
  • Communities of practice develop skills and professional connections
  • Communities of product help members master tools
  • Businesses usually focus on product, practice, or a blend

There's communities of product, practice, and play.

Patrick Woods · 04:00

And for me, it's it's important to think about what do the members of this community expect when they show up.

Patrick Woods · 03:30
#community#community strategy#member value#go-to-market
Explainer06:00

Why Community Is More Than a Growth Channel

A healthy community can accelerate go-to-market, product development, recruiting, and concept testing. Treating it only as a source of leads or support-ticket deflection understates its potential as a company-wide force multiplier.

  • Community can support several business functions
  • Community-led growth can imply an overly narrow funnel role
  • Community can provide an R&D testing ground
  • Go-to-community deserves consideration alongside go-to-market

a healthy community, a thriving community for a business actually it de-risks and accelerates every part of a business.

Patrick Woods · 06:00

almost like a power up for the whole company.

Patrick Woods · 06:30
#community-led growth#go-to-community#growth#business strategy
Explainer14:00

Why Communities of Practice Are Harder Than Product Communities

Product communities benefit from built-in distribution because customers already use the relevant product. Communities of practice must attract, activate, and retain members before those people become customers, effectively creating another product that competes for attention.

  • Product adoption supplies distribution for product communities
  • Support deflection and retention offer familiar product-community metrics
  • Practice communities precede the customer relationship
  • Practice communities compete against more alternatives for attention
  • A weak bridge to the core product can leave a company running two disconnected products

The one that's really different for tech companies is community of practice, because community of practice puts community before the customer

Kieran Flanagan · 15:00

I'm just building two different products.

Kieran Flanagan · 15:30
#community of practice#community of product#distribution#saas
Explainer21:30

How Product Communities Naturally Mature into Practice Communities

Product communities often begin by connecting power users around features and APIs. As participation broadens, conversations naturally expand into careers, events, techniques, and wider professional challenges, creating a community of practice.

  • Start by connecting product power users
  • Invite adjacent users as the community matures
  • Expect conversations to expand beyond product features
  • Professional peer exchange can emerge without forcing it
  • The product-to-practice path is common and gradual

we almost see this maturity curve of communities of product morphing in sort of naturally into communities of practice.

Patrick Woods · 21:30

And then over time, as more people come in, you naturally see that conversation shifting to a community of practice.

Patrick Woods · 22:30
#community maturity#product community#community of practice#power users
Explainer23:30

How a Community Team Changes as the Company Grows

At an early-stage company, founders should act as the first community champions. As the organization grows, it can add frontline advocates, community operations specialists, content roles, and eventually a director or VP who commonly reports through marketing.

  • Founders are the first community hires
  • Early community managers often sit in marketing
  • Advocates welcome and engage frontline members
  • Community operations connects identities, platforms, and data
  • Larger teams may specialize in content and social media

Your first community hire is is you the the founders themselves

Patrick Woods · 24:00

You might see a community ops person, the community operations is sort of a role we're starting to see more and more.

Patrick Woods · 25:00
#community team#organization design#community operations#hiring
Explainer27:00

How to Connect Community Activity to Business Results

Community measurement should start with observing where engaged members affect the business rather than imposing a lead target immediately. Teams can examine activation, retention, referral, adoption, awareness, and product behavior, then form hypotheses and back into meaningful metrics.

  • Measure member value creation before demanding lead volume
  • Identify cohorts of highly engaged members
  • Observe their product and amplification behavior
  • Map activity to relevant funnel or product outcomes
  • Use discovered relationships to choose community investments

you do have to have the connective tissue between the value created and the community and the value captured for the company.

Patrick Woods · 27:30

It's a sort of an observation question first.

Patrick Woods · 28:00
#community metrics#measurement#roi#business outcomes

Story· 2

Story16:00

How MUX Grew from an Existing Web Video Community

MUX emerged alongside a meetup for people interested in video on the web. Because the founders were already participants and maintained separation between the community and company, the community became a source of brand awareness without being manufactured solely to serve the startup.

  • The community existed around a shared technical interest
  • The founders participated before leveraging it commercially
  • A firewall protected the community's independence
  • Organic emergence reduced the need to bootstrap interest from nothing

they sort of started out of the San Francisco video API meetup or like web video meetup basically.

Patrick Woods · 16:30

But I think it works best when it's organically derived from what's happening already.

Patrick Woods · 17:30
#mux#organic community#developer community#startups
Story37:00

How DBT Made Community a Defining Business Advantage

DBT is presented as a company that made its data and analytics engineering community central to its identity. The example illustrates why acquiring or building a community works best when leadership treats it as a defining source of differentiation and commits to investing accordingly.

  • DBT foregrounds community in its market presence
  • Community can become a company's primary differentiator
  • Strategic commitment encourages sustained investment
  • A community treated as a side asset is likely to atrophy

they have the biggest community of like data engineers and data and analytics engineering.

Kip Bodner · 37:00

I believe that for my market, community is a defining way to differentiate.

Kip Bodner · 37:30
#dbt#data engineering#differentiation#community strategy

Q&A· 1

Q&A34:30

Should You Acquire an Existing Community?

Before buying a community, a company should determine whether it can create value through participation or sponsorship instead. It should also assess whether ownership would benefit members, whether it has the resources to preserve the community, and whether community is central to its differentiation.

  • Explore participation before ownership
  • Assess whether independence serves members better
  • Confirm the company can fund and manage continued growth
  • Conduct community discovery like product discovery
  • Buy only when community fits a clear business strategy

Like, do we need to own the asset or can we support it?

Patrick Woods · 35:00

I'm always biased towards doing discovery, basically the same way you would do product discovery, doing community discovery

Patrick Woods · 36:00
#acquisition#due diligence#community discovery#strategy

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway07:30

Community Creates Value Before the Business Captures It

Patrick distinguishes community from traditional go-to-market activity through its primary orientation. Go-to-market programs capture value for the business, while community programs should begin by creating value for members.

  • Separate community work from conventional demand capture
  • Ask what the company can create for members
  • Avoid reducing community to a top-of-funnel channel
  • Use member value to clarify the community team's role

go to market programs are focused on value capture, which is essential for businesses to operate.

Patrick Woods · 07:30

But if you can ask yourself what value can we create for our community, it sort of disambiguates the role of marketing folks versus community…

Patrick Woods · 08:00
#value creation#value capture#community strategy#marketing