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21 April 2022

Twittersode! Licensing Bored Apes, A Crazy Franchise Story and The Role of AI in Creativity

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster21:30

AI May Automate Creative Work Before Physical Labor

Conventional forecasts expected artificial intelligence to transform physical labor first, cognitive work second, and creative work last. OpenAI's image and text-generation capabilities suggest the sequence may be reversing, with creative production becoming one of the earliest areas of major disruption.

  • Older forecasts placed creative automation last
  • Generative AI already produces images and advertising copy
  • Physical work may prove harder to automate than digital creativity
  • The direction of AI progress remains difficult to predict

A decade ago, the conventional wisdom was that AI would first impact physical labor and then cognitive labor, and then maybe someday it could do…

Kieran · 22:00

And now it looks like it's going to go in the opposite order.

Kieran · 22:00
#artificial intelligence#creativity#automation#openai

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take17:00

Why Web3 Companies May Need Community Before Product-Market Fit

The hosts argue that decentralized products pull marketing and community development much earlier into the company lifecycle. When users help create the product, a company cannot wait until after product-market fit to cultivate its community because that community is one of the inputs required to reach product-market fit.

  • Community can be a product input rather than a promotion channel
  • Marketing begins earlier when users help build the service
  • Aligned incentives create advocates from the outset
  • Web3 reverses the conventional sequence of product first, community later

it pulls marketing way back in the product life cycle and that you're starting to market to people much earlier because you need them to…

Kieran · 17:30

But now community is part of how you get product market fit.

Kieran · 18:00
#community#product-market fit#web3#marketing

Explainer· 3

Explainer03:30

Why Brands Are Licensing Bored Apes and Other NFT Characters

Coinbase and iHeartRadio illustrate how companies can license NFT characters for advertising, entertainment, and branded storytelling. The hosts argue that recognizable NFT intellectual property can give brands access to existing communities and cultural relevance, though the creative execution still determines whether a campaign succeeds.

  • NFT owners can license commercial rights to brands
  • Existing NFT communities can provide built-in distribution
  • A recognizable character does not replace a compelling story
  • Most early NFT licensing campaigns may be poorly executed

Businesses are starting to license NFT IP for marketing purposes.

Kip · 04:00

most of this NFT licensing is going to be crap. I think there are some smart marketers out there who will crush and get really…

Kieran · 05:00
#nfts#licensing#intellectual property#branding
Explainer10:30

How Nonlinear Growth Breaks the Link Between Headcount and Revenue

Linear growth depends on adding people and paying for their finite time, while nonlinear growth comes from systems that scale beyond direct labor. User-generated content and product virality allow communities or technology to create additional distribution without a proportional increase in spending.

  • Linear growth remains constrained by human time
  • User-generated content lets communities expand a content engine
  • Product virality turns existing users into distributors
  • Nonlinear systems can produce asymmetric returns

Your growth is not dependent upon humans. Your growth is dependent upon community or technology.

Kieran · 10:30

you are getting growth outside of the direct kind of dollar in dollar out that you're investing in your business.

Kip · 11:30
#growth#virality#community#ugc
Explainer12:30

Web3 Turns Customers Into the People Building the Product

Web3 incentives can encourage users to supply the infrastructure, data, or participation that constitutes a product. Helium, Hive Mapper, and Superlocal are presented as examples where community members can contribute to the network, earn tokens, and simultaneously use the resulting service.

  • Token incentives can reward users for building infrastructure
  • Contributors can also become customers
  • Helium users extend a decentralized wireless network
  • Hive Mapper users produce map data with dash cameras
  • Community participation becomes part of product development

It's how do I get people to actually build the product itself through incentives?

Kieran · 12:30

your community are both customers, but also part of how you are building the company itself.

Kieran · 15:30
#web3#incentives#community#product development

Story· 2

Story18:30

How Rally Built a Company Podcast That Does Not Feel Corporate

Rally positioned its alternative-investment podcast around the emotionally resonant idea of the best money someone ever spent. The concept remains closely connected to Rally's product category while giving guests room to discuss culture, creativity, wins, losses, and nonfinancial returns.

  • The title creates immediate curiosity
  • The premise connects to the product without becoming a product pitch
  • Guests can discuss both financial and personal returns
  • A credible launch guest strengthens the show's positioning

The name of the podcast is awesome. The best money I ever spent.

Kip · 19:30

they're getting to the point, it's super tied to the product, but at the same time, super removed from the product.

Kip · 20:30
#podcasting#positioning#content marketing#rally
Story31:30

How Dippin' Dots Technology Found a Second Life in Plant-Based Meat

After Dippin' Dots went bankrupt, the business was acquired for $12 million and later grew into a company generating hundreds of millions in annual revenue. Its cryogenic technology was eventually licensed for use in plant-based meat, demonstrating that a company's most valuable asset may be the underlying process rather than its familiar consumer product.

  • Dippin' Dots originated from an experiment involving cattle feed
  • The company went bankrupt before being acquired for $12 million
  • Its freezing technology had applications beyond ice cream
  • Impossible Foods and Beyond Meat used the technology for fat-like components
  • Reframing an existing capability revealed a larger commercial opportunity

First of all, dip and dots came from a scientist who was trying to create a new food process to for cattle, where he was…

Kip · 33:00

they licensed it to impossible foods and beyond meat, and they use it to create the like the fat appearance in in vegan burgers and…

Kip · 34:00
#innovation#licensing#dippin dots#plant-based meat

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway08:00

The Hidden Cost of Making Licensed Intellectual Property More Valuable

A successful campaign can increase the value of the licensed asset, leaving the brand with higher renewal costs after doing the work that made it more desirable. Brands therefore need to distinguish between short-lived campaigns and intellectual property they may want to own for the long term.

  • Marketing can increase the value of someone else's asset
  • Future licensing fees may rise after a successful campaign
  • Ownership can be preferable for long-term brand assets
  • Temporary licensing works best for deliberately short campaigns

the game is not about licensing, it's about ownership.

Kip · 08:00

you either need to buy that asset before, or you need to know that it's a very temporary flash in the pan, like we're gonna…

Kip · 08:30
#licensing#ownership#brand assets#nfts
Takeaway25:00

AI Can Make Creativity Accessible by Removing Technical Busywork

Generative tools can reduce the time required to translate an idea into an image, advertisement, or other finished asset. The hosts believe this will broaden creative participation and let marketers spend more time developing differentiated ideas instead of mastering every production tool.

  • Many people incorrectly believe they are not creative
  • Technical tools create friction between ideas and execution
  • AI can accelerate the creation of finished assets
  • Marketers will need to invest more heavily in differentiation
  • Automation may free people for more interesting creative work

there is going to be a whole revolution of technology that brings out the creative in everyone.

Kip · 25:30

what is this idea that I have in the world, and how do I get that idea to the world as fast as possible?

Kieran · 27:30
#creativity#generative ai#marketing#productivity
Takeaway35:30

Iconic Brands Deliver What Customers Cannot Yet Ask For

Customer research can reveal current demand, but following it too literally can make every competitor converge on the same strategy. The hosts argue that distinctive brands combine responsiveness with taste, leadership, and a point of view about what customers will value next.

  • Customer research alone can produce sameness
  • Brands should satisfy known needs while anticipating emerging ones
  • Taste and perspective help marketers create unexpected value
  • Iconic brands lead markets instead of copying competitors

The best marketers give their customers exactly what they want, and at the same time, give their customers what they don't yet know that they…

Kip · 36:00

You're never gonna build an iconic brand, an iconic company if you are a follower of your competitors or you're a follower of the same…

Kip · 36:30
#branding#customer research#differentiation#leadership